Seductive Exacting Realism (SER), 2015-ongoing

This sound program based on an interview Irena Haiduk conducted on January 14, 2015 at Harvard University’s Carpenter Center with Srdja Popovic, co-founder of the OTPOR! student group and the consultancy CANVAS (Center for Applied Non-violent Action and Strategy). SER consists of a Waiting Room and a Blind Room. The edited conversation, re-recorded by Jennifer Estlin and Lin Qian, forms a 28 minute program commencing every hour, on the hour, like a clock in the total dark of the Blind Room.


In the dark, the effects of blindness can be felt and the advantages of orality emerge. We cannot immediately tell what is in the room with us and whether it is alive or dead. We come into contact with the features of a thing by testing it before seeing it. The dark establishes an equivalence, a loyalty, and a familial solidarity between people and things. At documenta 14 in Kassel, a Transactional Area preceded the Waiting Room. This economy continues to demonstrate the ongoing incorporation of Yugoexport.


Sound Consultant

Paul Dickinson


Apple Inc. IVR Voice

Lin Qian


Replicant Voice

Jennifer Estlin


Design and Art Direction



Commissioned by the Renaissance Society at The University of Chicago. Initially co-presented by the 14th Istanbul Biennial and the Renaissance Society.